LIQUID PAINTS

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Here are some wild liquid paints...all these products are also available in SPRAY PAINT CANS

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I know where those colors come from, they have a great product i believe, BUT, not long ago, I bought the Killer Krome set (cans, base black, chrome, clear) and for the life of me I can not get it to turn out like they can, nothing even close, ALSO I was sent NO instructions with the purchase, could you round some up ? I hate to think i have $120 in spray cans that i can't use properly and have to let collect. On a side note I did receive an AWESOME shirt from them lol

[Guest]

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If your killer chrome is shiny and reflective, but once you apply the clear it turns dull, this means you have too much Killer Chrome on your part or it has been over applied. Unlike using the mirror chrome to be applied out of an HVLP gun, this product is in an aerosol can. With this being said you cannot control the PSI or material volume. The best way to get a professional finish is to apply the killer chrome 10-12 inches away from your part. You must keep the hand moving quickly or the chrome will build up in certain areas and form these dull spots when cleared. A good way to think about the application is it’s not the number of coats or strokes applied but when you see the effect you desire stop painting with the chrome and follow the finishing steps.

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Here is the application guide:

How to Apply Killer Chrome

STEP 1. - Apply the Killer Cans "Stylin Basecoat (Jet Black) KC-ASB-13" over a prepped and primed surface.

STEP 2. - Using the Killer Cans "Lightning Clear KC-ALC-770" you should now topcoat the black basecoat to provide you with a High Gloss surface and insure the best results with Killer Chrome.

STEP 3. - These parts should now be allowed to FULLY cure for 24 hours.

STEP 4. - You are now ready to apply the Killer Chrome over the previously prepared piece. Begin by applying light “DUST” coats. Do NOT SPRAY WET LIKE A SPRAY PAINT! This is a true metal deposition and requires a light, EVEN, application.

STEP 5. - Continue to apply these “DUST” coats until you have achieved a uniform coverage and allow it to dry for a few minutes before proceeding.

STEP 6. - You will now use the polishing cloth (included in Killer Chrome Kit) by carefully washing with water to remove all of the excess “dust” from the surface. Once you complete this step you will notice a drastic improvement in the final appearance.

STEP 7. - Be sure all moisture is removed prior to moving on to STEP 8.

STEP 8. - After waiting at least 15 minutes for all of the remaining solvents to fully evaporate you are ready to apply the protective topcoat "Lightning Clear KC-ALC-770".

STEP 9. - Spray 1-2 coats evenly over the Killer Chrome to give it long lasting durability and an incredible amount of depth.

STEP 10. - **OPTIONAL** - To achieve an automotive grade finish and durability you can next apply Alsa’s unique (2K) clearcoat “Speed Clear KC-SC1230” (sold separately). Ensure “Lightning Clear KC-ALC-770” is fully cured then spray 1-2 coats evenly.

WARNING: “Speed Clear KC-SC1230” is for professional use only and requires the use of a NIOSH approved mask in a well ventilated area.

[Guest]

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nope I never could get my krome to look like it should before the clearing process.

[Guest]

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A friend of mine has the set up to do that chrome spray stuff and it comes out great. I couldn`t believe the look of the stuff. It looked just like chrome. Although he had showed me some parts he had tried to do earlier and he couldn`t get a smooth base and the chrome looked like garbage. With the smooth base coat though I really couldn`t believe it.

yea I am thinking i didn't have my base smooth enough, though it wasn't rough by any means, I have over 1/2 left, so i am going to do test pieces until I get it right, cause I think it's there, it's just in the technique...

[Guest]

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May I ask what is going wrong with yours?
I guess not...lol

for one test sample, I used a powdered base instead of the paint base. tho at this moment, I'm not sure how slick the base needs to be. I've sprayed a good bit of paint, so if i'm shooting base clear, I would normally sand with 400 grit wet prior to laying base, then after laying base, I don't sand again until I'm wet sanding clear IF that's necessary. Now on this stuff.. I'm not sure. On the second piece, i used the paint base, but I don't think it outgased long enough, aka - I didn't follow the steps exactly. So that is where I'm going to start and go from there and see where it falls in the end lol

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May I ask what is going wrong with yours?
I guess not...lol

for one test sample, I used a powdered base instead of the paint base. tho at this moment, I'm not sure how slick the base needs to be. I've sprayed a good bit of paint, so if i'm shooting base clear, I would normally sand with 400 grit wet prior to laying base, then after laying base, I don't sand again until I'm wet sanding clear IF that's necessary. Now on this stuff.. I'm not sure. On the second piece, i used the paint base, but I don't think it outgased long enough, aka - I didn't follow the steps exactly. So that is where I'm going to start and go from there and see where it falls in the end lol

Ok. From what my friend said if the base isn`t smooth it won`t come out right. From what he showed me his was wrinkled on the parts he couldn`t get smooth or didn`t try to get smooth. He was going through the test faze with the system. I guess kind of like you are. Took him a while, but he is now coating everything from car bumpers to helmets. I never thought they could make a paint look like that, but they did. Man, that makes me feel old...lol

yep.. I am thinking, well I know it's either in the base or in the krome application, so this should not be too hard to figure out and I've watched their videos so from the videos it can't be TOO hard. just thinking long term on this.

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Whether you are using the de-ionized water chrome system, liquid HVLP system, or the Killer chrome cans, your base coat must be perfect. If you have any sort of build up or bumps, this will show right through your chrome. You must also have your base coat looking like glass. If you have a semi-gloss appearance to your base coat, your chrome finish will come out less than semi-gloss. The prep work is the key factor in getting your base coat to have the smoothest and most reflective finish. Only one time have a I had a customer receive a bad aerosol can and this was replaced with a can that worked just fine. I have never heard of anyone receiving bad liquid chrome (Mirrar Chrome) before. If your black basecoat has a smooth mirror finish and you still have these problems, then you might want to contact whom you purchased the chrome from and see about getting a replacement.

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Whether you are using the de-ionized water chrome system, liquid HVLP system, or the Killer chrome cans, your base coat must be perfect. If you have any sort of build up or bumps, this will show right through your chrome. You must also have your base coat looking like glass. If you have a semi-gloss appearance to your base coat, your chrome finish will come out less than semi-gloss. The prep work is the key factor in getting your base coat to have the smoothest and most reflective finish. Only one time have a I had a customer receive a bad aerosol can and this was replaced with a can that worked just fine. I have never heard of anyone receiving bad liquid chrome (Mirrar Chrome) before. If your black basecoat has a smooth mirror finish and you still have these problems, then you might want to contact whom you purchased the chrome from and see about getting a replacement.

lol I purchased the killer can's kit from Matthew. but you mention something.. my base, using the black base, has never had a mirror finish, it has always been like a matte finish even though it was smooth as glass, it was not dark deep and glossy one bit.

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Try to get the base up to a higher gloss and if that doesn't work let us know, it could be the can.

[BeeBob]

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If you wet sand and polished out a black pc'd base coat then applied the krome, would that work? If you've got enough powder and it's smooth, you can always make the base shine with sanding and buffing.

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Yes...I dont see why it wouldn't work

[Guest]

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If you wet sand and polished out a black pc'd base coat then applied the krome, would that work? If you've got enough powder and it's smooth, you can always make the base shine with sanding and buffing.

Sorry for the long delay in response, but about three months ago I took a big step and enrolled back into college to follow a dream I had when I was in high school, so most everything else has kind of taken a back seat to work, school family, if it's not one of those, I don't much worry about it now lol. But to your question, I think you should be able to buff and polish out a pc'd base black and then shoot the chrome over the top of it, that's my intentions from the beginning, but ALSA said they didn't know if it would work and I can understand why, they're not in the powder coat business so they haven't tried a powder coat base, MAYBE this weekend I can get back to testing this stuff out, i think there's some good here, just finding the right technique to bring it out!

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Ok here's a sample of my base. if this is not black and glossy enough then I guess I will just give up and give in now. I tried shooting several pieces today and none of them turned out worth a crap. I don't think it's in the process, I'm leaning toward the chrome I have, maybe there's something not quite right about it. Anyhow I'll post the base black, and then I'll post one of the chrome .

BLACK



Chrome Applied



You can see the results of applying the chrome. I have watched the ALSA videos a bookoo of times, and I'm following procedure and yet this is still the result. As of right now I'm at a stand still, I used the rest of my chrome today, so I don't know if I'll buy any more ALSA or go to another brand. Frustrating to say the least.