Coating wheels without stripping

[Guest]

What do you guys think about sanding and coating over an existing factory finish (in good cond) on something like a wheel?

I have seen numerous posts about what a complete #$%&* some of the wheels are to strip - which makes me think the original finish is excellent quality and could stay. I'm taking about a factory Honda, BMW, Benz, etc wheel, not an inexpensive aftermarket one.

Would you be safe by running it through a cure cycle to see what it looks like, or will that just needlessly weaken the finish?

I worked in the wet paint industry (automotive), and we never stripped a factory finish in good shape before repainting.

Thanks.


Jay

[wiseguyz]

Re: Coating wheels without stripping

I have done it and it worked well. If the ones I did were in fact painted, they held up to a cure cycle without discoloring so I shot right over them. They were factory Nissan aluminum wheels off an Armada. Turned out great. Of course you can't warranty your finish like you could if you were starting with a bare substrate.

[Guest]

Re: Coating wheels without stripping

How could you remove just the paint without damaging the primer?

Do we know if most current motorcycle wheels are painted or powder coated?

Jay

[Guest]

Re: Coating wheels without stripping

How could you remove just the paint without damaging the primer?

Do we know if most current motorcycle wheels are painted or powder coated?

Jay

I've encountered a set of wheels where the top coat could be blasted, but the primer would not come off. It looked like the top coat was liquid and the primer was powder?

[Guest]

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BMW wheels in the USA are powdered primer, liquid, acrylic clear....this is the process....I really do know

[Guest]

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Thanks King - we know you know...


Jay

[Guest]

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How could you remove just the paint without damaging the primer?

Do we know if most current motorcycle wheels are painted or powder coated?

Jay

If there from factory most are painted aftermarket could be anything/ also im refering to sportbikes not your cruisers cause some of them have OEM powder coat finish.

[Smashing]

Re: Coating wheels without stripping

How could you remove just the paint without damaging the primer?

Do we know if most current motorcycle wheels are painted or powder coated?

Jay

If there from factory most are painted aftermarket could be anything/ also im refering to sportbikes not your cruisers cause some of them have OEM powder coat finish.

Are they easy blasting? I've got a guy thinking about having me do his sport bike rims. I think it's a Suzuki.

[baz]

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i don twant to start that kind of work , if i don t know exactly what is on that wheel and not knowing exactly what cleaning products or silicone sprays were used on the wheel i don t want to take the chance of coating them and having to redo them later

[Guest]

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I'm going to answer this one honestly.
I have a set of Stock Mountaineer wheels on my truck now.
I wanted some 31" tires, and to make a long story short I needed to coat them in 6 hours to make a trade

I outgassed them for a couple of those, let them cool for an hour, and scrubbed the crap out of them with rubber gloves and as hot of water with dawn detergent as I could. ( put towels in the bathtub to prevent scratching it--lol)
I heated them real good and let them cool to about 190 , shot them with smoked chrome and clear.

They look so good, I get comments from normal people saying how good they look. I never had comments on my wheels before, but that smoked chrome is-
well it's off topic, but the wheels look real good. I really didn't think it would work out, but the factory clear is still under there.

I'm pretty hard on them also--

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff26 ... 1221622124

[wiseguyz]

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Are they easy blasting? I've got a guy thinking about having me do his sport bike rims. I think it's a Suzuki.

Most of the sport bike rims do blast clean very easily.

[Guest]

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I did find out that the BMW wheels o my wife's 84 528e were easy to strip in fact over the years they were stripping themselves Don't know when they started using the primer from hell that some of us has dealt with for sure and it would be nice to know I bet! My first job was a set of them and the whole time I was doing what Jason told me to do to clean them I kept thing they should have coated but when I went to shoot them is when I found some very small areas that were really hard to see until you got them in the right light and with someone with 20/20 and then blasted those areas and then no problem coating. What a hell of a job to be my first customer but they got done and a BIG thanks to JASON guiding me through it.

Thanks Bud

[Guest]

Re: Coating wheels without stripping

To those who are wanting to strip their parts, you can purchase B14 it is an air craft stripper from Benco Sales located in Crossville Tennessee. It will strip any and all coatings in 5 yes five min.

[JNZFinishing]

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I prefer to have all my wheels stripped down the bare metal, easy to coat I find. I did a set of wheels where I went over the factory paint and they didn't come out all that great. So from now one, they all get stripped

[Guest]

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To those who are wanting to strip their parts, you can purchase B14 it is an air craft stripper from Benco Sales located in Crossville Tennessee. It will strip any and all coatings in 5 yes five min.

I have to check but the aircraft stripper I use is the one from auto zone and advance and the Jasco is from Lowe's. Both will burn you. The Jasco is the hottest. It will even get through Playtex gloves so you need chemical ones or be very careful. They are both semi paste. Most of the time I just scrap it off and if I need I use a wire brush or steel wool. I put all the removed stuff in a box and also clean the part with a paper towel before I soap and wash it. After about a day its dry and brittle and will crumble all to pieces. Even though I have the PBTP stripper I use this on my steel parts because it seems their stripper will or can make steel flash rust quick. I have not run any test to see why it wants to flash rust some pieces? It did fine on my MACK mirror but it will rust your hooks? The hooks are spring steel I think and that might be the reason? Can any of you tell me if they have any problem say with steel parts using it and what you are doing after you pull it from the tank and after you have cleaned all the extra paint off? Or since you are going to blast it you don't worry much about it?