large flat areas

[Guest]

Not tooting my own horn, but small areas and pieces with rounded shapes and corners seem to be my thing. Problem is I cant seem to get mirror black to lay down smooth on a large flat surface. Like a bike tank, or fender.

Orange peel like a bitch. I know I know. To heavy, OP, To light, OP

Any thoughts or good things to look at when coating these large areas to not get this OP problem?

Thanks as always,
Mike

[Guest]

Re: large flat areas

and before the king asks, no, I have not purchased a thickness guage yet, just have not been able to open my wallet far enough to dump 5 to 7 hundred on one.

[Guest]

Re: large flat areas

and before the king asks, no, I have not purchased a thickness guage yet, just have not been able to open my wallet far enough to dump 5 to 7 hundred on one.

I hear ya man. I'm on the same boat. After the King Coat this is the next big investment for me.

[wiseguyz]

Re: large flat areas

The biggest thing is to pay attention to your overlap and try to get your coverage nice and even. A bright light is helpful. Almost all powders will have more peel on large flat surfaces than they will on tubular or irregular parts, but you can do a good job with acceptable OP with some practice. This was done with my Wagner using the preset recipe for flat panels, and I also used the fan tip instead of a cone tip.

[Guest]

Re: large flat areas

Can you post a picture of the fan tip next to the cone tip? I'm trying to figure out which one is which...

[Guest]

Re: large flat areas

Be patient with yourselves...it takes time to master all products...Bumper Black is also a nice product to work with instead of the mirror black. She is 100% overbake resistance and not as tempermental as the Mirror Black.

[Guest]

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Juan]Can you post a picture of the fan tip next to the cone tip? I'm trying to figure out which one is which...

Columbia Coatings sells the fan tip to fit your Caswell gun.

http://store.columbiacoatings.com/cgi-b ... egory=CEFN

Harley

[Guest]

Re: large flat areas

Be patient with yourselves...it takes time to master all products...Bumper Black is also a nice product to work with instead of the mirror black. She is 100% overbake resistance and not as tempermental as the Mirror Black.

Is it as glossy? And reflective?

Harley

[89efdusty]

Re: large flat areas

Be patient with yourselves...it takes time to master all products...Bumper Black is also a nice product to work with instead of the mirror black. She is 100% overbake resistance and not as tempermental as the Mirror Black.

Hi everyone, sorry to thread jack espicially for my first post...but is there a way to see the whole list of PBTP powders that cannot be overbaked? I am just starting out and after about 20 or so projects I am just wanting to use less problematic powders until I can get my technique down. Thanks and again sorry.

[Guest]

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Welcome to the forums.

[Guest]

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Thread-Jacker! Nah, Just kidding! You wont find anything but good info here. Welcome to the forum.

[Guest]

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89efdusty welcome to the forums.
I'm sure King,powderby or Harleydad will chime in and answer your question for ya. They would be able to answer it
for ya.
Harley

[Guest]

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I think Harleydad is out chasing deer this weekend. Probably won't hear from him until seasons over. Wish him luck.

[Auto-Cycle PC]

Re: large flat areas

Be patient with yourselves...it takes time to master all products...Bumper Black is also a nice product to work with instead of the mirror black. She is 100% overbake resistance and not as tempermental as the Mirror Black.

Hi everyone, sorry to thread jack espicially for my first post...but is there a way to see the whole list of PBTP powders that cannot be overbaked? I am just starting out and after about 20 or so projects I am just wanting to use less problematic powders until I can get my technique down. Thanks and again sorry.

Nearly every powder sprays differently. I suggest finding what you like best and learning to spray it with practice. I have sprayed several hundred different powders and have mastered very few. I personally like PBTP's new WET White and WET Black for their ease in use. For flat black I like the Tuscan Black. For Red I am using Mirror Red but it does not have the mileage some of the others do. Thats just a few of my regulars and a really good question.

[Auto-Cycle PC]

Re: large flat areas

Not tooting my own horn, but small areas and pieces with rounded shapes and corners seem to be my thing. Problem is I cant seem to get mirror black to lay down smooth on a large flat surface. Like a bike tank, or fender.

Orange peel like a bitch. I know I know. To heavy, OP, To light, OP

Any thoughts or good things to look at when coating these large areas to not get this OP problem?

Thanks as always,
Mike

Mike, with the flat areas the fan tip does help a lot. Also I never spray flat areas straight on. I spray them with the tip of the gun anywhere from a 45 to 90 degree angle with the part. This allows you to see the attraction of the powder to the part and keeps the powder from repelling back off the part. With rounded or oddly shaped parts there is some where for the excess powder to attract too, with flat areas the powder and charge is repelled back off the part if you shoot it straight on. Hope that helps and makes sense.